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 Post subject: Hay Field Help
PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 1:36 pm 

Joined: Wed Dec 31, 1969 6:00 pm
Posts: 12
Weeds? Disk? What to plant? When to plant?

I'm trying to establish a permanent hay field for
beef cattle that will not need to be planted each year.
I've read many of the posts here on the dirtdoctor. I
have 28 acres total, 10 for this hay field and about 15
for grazing pasture. I'm in Princeton, black land muck,
off Sister Grove Creek.

What I've been doing, planting haygrazer each
spring and fertilizing with chemicals. In the fall I've
occasionally planted a mixture of oats, wheat, and rye
with success. I've not used any herbicides for the six
years I've lived here. I do have weeds in this hay
field, mostly bull nettle. The current state of the
pasture is hay stubble with bull nettle weeds.

From what I've read, I should be able to get rid of
the bull nettle by spraying them with 10-20% vinegar.
Should I do it now? Wait till spring?

What should I plant? I've had good crops of rye,
wheat, oats and hay grazer. In a corral I've had
volunteer fescue do well. I've attempted to plant
Turner Seeds' Bluestem Mix on a 3 acre plot but with
limited results.

When should I fertilize? I'm planning to use liquid

My plan until you guys tell me, "NO NO, don't do that" :D
Spray the weeds this weekend with vinegar. Disk and
plant rye and "some legume/clover" next weekend. Put
out molasses the next weekend.

Looking forward to your advice.


 Post subject: hay field
PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2004 5:09 am 

Joined: Sun Nov 16, 2003 5:28 am
Posts: 8
Location: whitney, tx
you might want to talk to brad watson at he uses coastal with an overseed of crimson clover, which i am working towards also as money and time allows. anyway his web site i believe is watson ranch . com also look at the comments under the subject of help the new guy

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2004 8:08 am 

Joined: Sun Mar 16, 2003 11:56 am
Posts: 33
Location: Tyler, Texas
Thank you Wayne, Just a small correction...... the web site is
and just a reminder that the fall is one of the best times to fertilize your pastures.
Improves condition of the soil during the winter months.
Improves heath of the root systems of dromant grasses.
Improves winter grasses/winter pastures.
Spring grass starts gowing sooner.
Healty soils euals less weeds in the spring and more legumes.
We also carry Fish and Seaweed Fertilizer (Gulf of Maine) that is great on winter pastures, in Dec. or Jan.
Thanks again Wayne!

We manufacture and sell Organic Fertilizer Products. We specalize in Hay and Grazing Pastures. We also grow and sell Oranically Grown Horse Quality Coastal and Clover/ Coastal Hay. 903 858-2030

 Post subject: Thanks
PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 10:37 pm 

Joined: Wed Dec 31, 1969 6:00 pm
Posts: 12
Thanks for your help. I'll look into the"Eastern Gamma grass".


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