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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 4:09 pm 
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I'm in search of a source of organic hay. My horses live in the Southlake area.

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Kathy


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 1:51 am 
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My hay guy will hay non-certified organic hay in the
next few weeks. The fertilizer is my mixture - sea
water for 92 trace minerals, amino acids, and
enzymes, liquid humates, humic acid, fulvic acid,
and chelated minerals, molasses. The above will be
native grasses w/ very little bermuda.
I just did 27 acres of bermuda on Wed, and
60 acres today with sea water, humates, and
aerated compost tea with molasses. This will be
great if it rains - it will rain, soon?
We had horses on this last year and they made it
through the winter with out supplements, they
were shiny, and held their weight.
Robert d Bard


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 5:11 am 
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Robert, can you post the contact info for your hay guy?
thanks, Kathy


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 7:37 am 
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Sammy lives in Whitesboro
Sammy Rains
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non cerified organic hay
some native, some bermuda hay.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 7:17 am 
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Am new to the forum but was wondering if Mr. Bard would have any organic hay for sale this year? A friend of mine and I could use about 30 bales or so or any we could get. We live in johnson county near joshua. Also does it make any difference when you spray liquid molasses on you pasture-time of year or day?


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 1:36 pm 
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Out of curiosity, how much does organic hay sell for? Sqaure bales, round bales? Is coastal that has had nothing but chicken liter on it for serveral years considered organic?


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 6:36 am 
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I haven't heard from Bob Bard for a while, I'll try to check on him. I don't know anything about his hay contact but will pass any info on if I can contact him.
Organic is a very specific term, surrounded by government rules and standards. If I knew the farmer and was told that it had nothing but chicken litter on it for years, I would consider that OK and buy it but it could not be legally sold as organic until the farm was certified.
Tony M


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 12:50 pm 
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I agree with Tony, but I'd also want to know what the chickens were fed and how they managed parasites. Chemicals pass righ through, if ya know what I mean.


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Thanks for the info.......Around here it is very common to use commercial chicken liter produced by laying or broiler houses. I'm sure there are things fed to the chickens that are less than great but the reality of it is that it is still much better than chemical fertilizers and though it can be done, it is difficult for a marginal operation to make the jump to a 100 percent organic program. We have use liter for years and it far outperforms the chemical programs(when you can get it). Still curious, how much is organic hay selling for? Square bales? Round Bales? Does anyone know if commercial chicken litter fertilized hay would qualify for organic certification?


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 6:11 am 
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Because of the drought in much of Texas--maybe not around Houston--it's hard to find any kind of hay, especially organic. If you do find it, the price is 2X what it's been in the past, regular round bales are going for $70.

It's just my opinion, but I don't think the hay would be considered organic if commercial chicken litter had been applied.

Pat


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