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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 1:56 pm 
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What are the best choices for overseeding a horse pasture? I read an oustanding article at the Noble Foundation Web site about overseeding. For horses, they suggested a mixture of Elbon Rye, wheat, and annual rye grass. A visit to the feed store quickly made me reconsider the annual rye grass. It was priced at $26.95/50 lbs, while the Elbon was $11.95/50 lbs. I can put out twice as much Elbon for the price! Comments? Suggestions?


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Did you post somewhere else? No matter.

I paid $9.19 for 50 lb sacks of Elbon rye. We planted 30 sacks for winter grass--if it'll ever rain.

We broadcast annual ryegrass last year, but I don't remember it being so expensive. I do remember that it was cheaper than wheat or oats.

Turner Seed Co in Breckenridge get $.45/lb for ryegrass, but I think that's more than what the feed store charged.

The Elbon is suppose to come up earlier than the ryegrass, which really gets going around January and lasts until April/May.

Pat Akin


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 11:30 am 
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When you mention wheat, elbon rye and annual rye
you are mixing apples and oranges and it will not
work. Elbon and wheat have about the same sieze
seed and can go out at the same time, if you want to
mix them. They are a lot cheaper per 50 lb bag but
you have to put out 3 times more so the cost is
mute. To put them out you have to have a prepared
seed bed and they need to be drilled into the soil for
the best results. You can get a decent stand if you
have the prepared seed bed and then drag into the
bed with a flexable harrow.
On the other hand you can get a respectable stand
with annual rye by broadcasting and dragging it with
some thing to get on the soil beneath the grass. Also,
depending on the brand it will reseed each year and
keep coming back year after year. I didn't like TAM 90 -
poor stand. Oregon rye and Gulf Coast rye is ok,
but favorite is Marshall rye. That has been the best
stand and returns well each year.
I also recommend some clover. There will be people
that get all worked up and tell you that clover will
make your horses sick. They really don't like clover
and I only use a small amount to help the soil. I have
never tried a clover that stands up and that could be
different in terms of horses eating it. I use white clover
that has runners. We have raised horses since 1977.
Robert D Bard


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Ditto to Robert D. Bard. I would add that it is customary to plant wheat and rye at about 100 pounds per acre. To get a similar stand of ryegrass I usually shoot for 30 pounds per acre.


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Anyone reading this string seeking information should reference the outstanding article, titled The Mystery of Horse Pasture at:
http://www.noble.org/Ag/Forage/HorseFor ... ml#Mystery

It includes a wealth of information including statements such as:

A good combination is a mixture of cereal rye or a variety of winter wheat and annual ryegrass or a winter legume. Under rotational grazing, this mixture will give a better distribution than a single kind of forage through fall, winter, and spring.


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