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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2003 6:10 am 
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I learn something new every day! This time I found out about using diatomaceous earth for flea control on your dog and in the house on carpeting (if you have carpets). I foster retired racing greyhounds from time to time, and greys don't tolerate most flea killers or repellents. The organization recommended one way that is not as expensive as the systemic flea-control measures, and that is to use diatomaceous earth directly sprinkled on the dogs coat and lightly rubbed in. This light sprinkling does not harm the dog, and it kills the fleas! I am told that it works on carpeting as well, but since I have only wood or tile floors in my house, I can't attest to that. But it works on the dogs!
So - along with garlic, brewer's yeast, pennyroyal infusion (don't try this one if you have not been taught) I now know of another, effective pest control for dogs. I don't know if it works on ticks.
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Great tip! :)
Please make sure to use food grade DE.
The swimming pool kind contains chlorine.

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 Post subject: DE for Fleas
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FYI - DE doesn't work well on long haired dogs. I make a mild dip of 1/2 oz orange oil & 1 gallon of water for my long haired dog and that works fine. You have to make it mild, or it will burn their skin. But it sure does work well. You can also add about that amount to your quart of pet shampoo if you like. For carpets, orange oil & water spray is good. I've used this method myself when fleas appear occasionally, usually at least once a year. Hope this is helpful to someone! :D


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For dogs with sensitive skin there is a neem shampoo available. I can not remember the name of it, but the Herb Market in Carrollton carries it.

The Herb Market
1002 Fourth Ave
Carrollton, TX 75006
(972) 446-9503

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Any soap used to wash the dog with kill the fleas onthe dog. After washing we use Cedarcide spray or the Cedarcide puff. This is a little cotton bag with cedar dust in it you pat on. Marshall Grain has the cedar puffs. Other Cedarcide products are at Marshall Grain or Lowes.

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Lordy, I got Rowdy back last night from a friend who had taken him off my hands a few months ago (long story). I brought him home, and took a shower with him and then rubbed orange oil solution on him. I must've made it too strong, cause he went to shimmyin all over the yard and livin room floor. I took him back out and dowsed him with a little more water and rubbed him with wet rags until he stopped squirmin so much'n settled down. I'm gonna take him to the vet this week and get his shots and whatnot started again. When I first had him, I took him to the vet to get his shots started and mentioned orange oil to them and got nothin but blank stares.

He's blue heeler and a quarter lab mix and goofy as all get out.

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This mornin he's shakin his ears almost continuously and scratchin lightly on one of em, and I don't know what to do for him. I checked it and didn't see nothin down there, so I'm sorta at a loss.

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Your pup pic is cute! I want to mention that DE on pet's skin can be very drying. If you do this, your pet is still itchy, and you can't find fleas it may be dry itchy skin.

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I was a soap peddler in Oak Cliff for a few years, and our competitors sold d-limolene products. We did not, because we claimed that they leach all the oils out of yer skin and leave them dry and cracked. That is true. Rowdy was much better after I wetted him well again and rubbed him with a wet rag and dried him off. I'm thinkin his ear trouble may have been ear mites, but I'll know better this afternoon. He's a whiney little booger. He also broke wind with such violence this morning underneath my desk that I had to look around and see if Dad was in the room. I had to light a match.

We're gonna stop by Dillard Feed after the vet appointment and pick up some Muenster puppy food. I went to Wally World this mornin and picked up a brush and some beef hide chews to keep him busy, as I reckon he's teethin a bit as well. He's about five or six months old, I think. He's already walked all over the farm with me a couple of times this mornin and inspected the taters and watermelons. I also introduced him to the lone surviving hen from the SpreadEagleRanch poultry experiment, and he didn't freak out or act predatory around her.

Perhaps he'll help keep down predations on the watermelons as well from all the varmints out here on the river. I'm determined to have watermelons this year come hell or high water, and this dog is my best vehicle for keepin away the deer, or so I assert to him in conversation. He seems stoked about it. Course, he's stoked about damn near anything I assert to him in conversation. I just asked him if he wanted to pull my pickup, and he allowed as how that was a cool idea.

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Vaccinations are a hot topic with me. I'm not a vet, just a concerned pet owner, but you might want to do some research on the topic of over vaccination in our dogs and cats. Sometimes problems can be caused by annual re-vaccination. Rabies needs to be done as requried by law. But spend a few minutes looking into the issue then decide. I really believe that we need to keep their immune systems healthy and we'll have less issues on the outside to worry over.
This is a good site: http://www.caberfeidh.com/HolisticCare.htm
You can also just do a search on "over vaccinations in dogs" or something like.
Thanks for taking the time!
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I 'preciate it.

I got his rabies and second round of shots and a worming done, and I got a year's supply of Sentinel for heartworms. I also ran by Dillard and picked up a 20# bag of the Muenster for puppies.

I'd like to be as organic as possible when it comes to Rowdy, and I'll likely phase in those things as I become more educated on them. I'm just tickled that he poops outside and hasn't farted again since this mornin.


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I went to Weatherford Gardens and got DE to use on the dog for fleas. Two or three days later, and he's scratching and chewing more than ever. I asked em at the store, and they said this was the type to use. He's on Sentinel for heartworms, so I take it the fleas he has are sterile. Isn't DE supposed to kill the fleas that are on him? This ain't dry skin; I just rolled him over to be sure I wasn't mistaken and saw one on his belly.

I also got him the Muenster dog chow, but he keeps nosin the bag of the Ole Roy poop that I brought home with him from Joey's. I'm beginnin to wonder if I'm feedin champagne to a beer appetite.

I'll go dust him again in a minute. His hair is kinda longish, so perhaps that's a problem, but I got that stuff all over him to the extent that every time I petted him this cloud would rise up and settle in my coffee. So I don't think it was lack of coverage. I'm all about overdoin things.

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As I understand it (never dusted an animal with DE myself) DE does cause some amount of drying of the skin. After this next dusting (a day or two) I'd give him an oatmeal bath and see if that helps minimize the scratching. At the very least it's soothing. A cornmeal soak might be another option (never tried that on an animal).

I didn't see mention of you treating any of the areas he frequents. I'm not sure how long DE is effective on an animal, but I'm guessing it's not very long. In order to deal with fleas you've got to get them dead everywhere your dog has access to. Bedding, carpet and outside areas. If he's given free run of your farm then that might be something you can look at limiting.

Some dogs are so sensitive to fleas that a single bite by one can bring on a full body rash that lasts for days or longer. Depends on the individual dog. If he starts to get hot spots from excessive scratching I'd recommend a tea tree oil based spray for relief and fresh aloe for healing. My Jack Russell is a walking histamine factory during early spring. Her belly and feet turn fire truck red for about 2 weeks! The tea tree oil spray (as well as low dosage anti-histamines) helped with that until whatever it was that she was allergic to went away.

Good luck battling the fleas, man! Maybe sharing a sip or two of your beer will ease the little guy's suffering. :wink:

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Well, it's not dry skin, or at least if it is, the fleas I spotted weren't helpin it any. I just need to get some sort of repellent on him of some sort, or scratch his belly more often to share the workload at least. Not likely to limit where he goes. He even rides on the tractor with me. He's a farm dog, at least to the extent that this is a farm. He's one a them that'll go roll in somethin dead, then bound up to the porch, jump in yer lap, break wind and collapse at yer feet. True class, and my kinda pooch.

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I make my lab a big burlap bag (can buy burlap at any store--just sew it up like a big pillowcase) and fill it with cedar chips. She loves to sleep on it and it seems to comfort her on rides in the car to the farm as well.

My favorite toy that a vet told me about years ago for a teething dog.....take some panty hose and keep tying them into a big knot. Make it real tight and like a ball. Dogs love this to chew on and it is good for their gums. They won't be so quick to chew on shoes, etc.

Another fun toy for them is to take hollow bone (store bought) and fill the inside with a little peanut butter. They will keep entertained for a long time trying to get the peanut butter out.

Looks like a smart dog!

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I also got him the Muenster dog chow, but he keeps nosin the bag of the Ole Roy poop that I brought home with him from Joey's. I'm beginnin to wonder if I'm feedin champagne to a beer appetite.



When it comes to dogs and food changes, their tummys tend not to take a drastic change well. Hince the farts.

What I would suggest is to mix the Ole Roy with Muenster, start with say 3/4 cup Ole Roy to 1/4 cup Muenster, after a few days make it 1/2 and 1/2 a few days later 1/4 Ole Roy to 3/4 Muenster and so on. It will not take long to switch him over. His tummy will feel better and so will his taste buds. On the plus side you will not be "wasting" the old stuff. I can understand wanting to get him off of Ole Roy, I have used it in the past and have had very negitive results, the worst of which is very large and nasty hot spots on my Golden Retrievers.

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