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battman1_2000



Joined: 23 Apr 2003
Posts: 8
Location: denton,TEXAS

Posted: Sat May 22, 2004 4:26 pm    Post subject: cucumbers  

i started some straight 8 cucumbers but they're far from straight! the cucumbers are either the size of round ping pong balls or are fairly straight with exteremley tapered ends. Is there something going on here?
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dragonfly



Joined: 20 May 2003
Posts: 526
Location: parker county, texas

Posted: Sat May 22, 2004 8:41 pm    Post subject:  

It sounds to me like inadequate pollination. Do you have plenty of bees in the area? Have you seen bees visiting the flowers? If not, you might consider hand-pollination.
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battman1_2000



Joined: 23 Apr 2003
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Location: denton,TEXAS

Posted: Sun May 23, 2004 7:56 am    Post subject:  

saw one honey bee and that was it. Now that you mention it, i attempted hand pollenation last year and had a good crop. guess I'll try it again. Thanks for reminding me!
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dragonfly



Joined: 20 May 2003
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Location: parker county, texas

Posted: Sun May 23, 2004 8:51 pm    Post subject:  

Two years ago, that's what was happening to me, and I realized I was not seeing any honeybees. Just occasional beeflies, but the numbers weren't adequate, so I bought a hive of bees for my garden. A great majority of the wild beehives have died out over the past ten to fifteen years from a couple of honeybee pests. The estimate is that 95% is the mortality rate.
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hamelcd



Joined: 23 Feb 2004
Posts: 51
Location: Keller, TX

Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 11:41 am    Post subject:  

What exactly do you mean when you say you bought a beehive? Is it something full of live bees, or is it something that attracts bees, and they will stay and live there?

I haven't seen any bees, and this worries me. I have plenty of beans, so pollination is occurring, but I still don't know if beans are wind pollinated like tomatoes, so it's hard to know if I have a problem or not...
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sandih



Joined: 04 Apr 2003
Posts: 1077
Location: Dallas,TEXAS

Posted: Sat May 29, 2004 3:34 pm    Post subject:  

I was looking in Howard's Texas Organic Vegetable Gardening book and he said, regarding misshapen cucumbers:

it can be caused by low ,oisture or stress. Provide and maintain adequate moisture during blooming and fruiting and make sure they are fertilized properly.
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dragonfly



Joined: 20 May 2003
Posts: 526
Location: parker county, texas

Posted: Sat May 29, 2004 8:42 pm    Post subject:  

You can buy bees in a couple of different manners, but it takes deciding that you want to devote some time and effort to it. You buy hives either as a "package" or as a "nuc". If you want to know more about beekeeping, visit Beesource.com sometime and read their exchange and some of the articles. There are also mason bees that are sold for pollination, and that would require much less from the owner than honeybees, but I don't know much about them. Beans and tomatoes don't require bees or other strong pollinators. Squash, cukes, and other cucurbits do require pollination by insects unless you want to hand-pollinate.
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dragonfly



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Posted: Sat May 29, 2004 8:45 pm    Post subject:  

I meant to add something regarding misshapen fruits. The average watermelon flower requires eight different visits by bees to pollinate well, and I expect other cucurbits do also. Maybe inconsistent water will effect this, but that has not been my experience.
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