Venom-X could save your life, if the government would let it

[kchervey]

Those of you that listen to the Natural Way a lot know that Howard has mentioned the Venom-X product.

It is like a low voltage stun gun. No, it is not a stun gun, but then again the stun gun is not a gun, it does not even look like a gun. It lookes more like an electric razor.

We have one. My wife is terribly allergic to bees, but also allergic to other stinging animals, and plants.

With this device, any sting can be neutralized with two one second treatments. Before we bought it, we read testimonials by hundreds of people. It really, really, does work. She was stung by a bee in 92, and if only she had this device then, instead of having to get pumped full o chemicals, her life would be sooooo much better.

Can I tell you where to buy one.? NO. We bought ours from Oklahoma, but he had to quit selling them because the FDA does not like it. Why? take your pick from the below:
1. It is ineffective, and unsafe. This would be the only legitimate reason since this is the FDA's mandate. Both of these will never be proven because there is nobody to do the research. Safety and efficacy will never be proven becuase that requires double blind studies. That means neither the researcher, or the test subject can know whether they were really bitten or not, or whether the were really shocked or not. The latter may be possible, but the former can never be achieved.
2. The drug and medical companies did not like it because they can't make money off of it.

We went to Big Bend this week, and my wife got a sting on her wrist. It was swelling like crazy with a huge white spot. I gave it two applications--estimate 1/10th of second durations, and then about five minutes later she checked again, and it was all back to the healthy normal.

Someone in another post said they are illeagal to use. The government is getting crazy with our liberties (like giving tickets for "improper use of seatbelts", and forcing car companies to put air bags in cars, and then warning us they will kill us), but so far they are not that nuts. It is not illeagal to use them. The voltage is not enough to harm, or even stun a person. The FDA can stop their sale becuase they claim to be a medical device.

If you build one yourself (Radio Electronics magazine tells how to make a stun gun, and assume there are lots of places on the Internet), then you can use it to save your life, or a lot of grief.

They work great on snake bites, and spider bites. Much better than the drugs.

Would a regular stun gun also work? Yes, but I would not want to use it unless I had to. If used too long in each application I could go unconscious, and besides, I don't like the tingle of electricity anyway.

How much voltage does it use? I have not measured, but the instruction book says 36kv approximate. I think I remember that stun guns are 80kv and higher.

Am I paranoid? Yes. That is why I am not including my telephone number, because otherwise I would welcome you to call me about this.

I am tired of the government and people like Dean Adell (have not heard him comment, but can only imagine) keeping me and you from the help we need.

Signed,

Mr. Paranoid

[Enzyme11]

I remember reading an account by a missonary to Africa that mentioned in passing that he used the electricity from the coil wire on his Land Rover (at least I guess it was a Land Rover) to treat snake bites. The article wasn't about that in particular, so it didn't give details. I assume that the voltage output of car coils of that era wasn't as high as it probably is today, so it might not have been a severe jolt.

As for a substitute for the actual "Venom-X" product, I think a stun gun is a bit extreme (extreme situations might call for extreme measures, though). It seems to me that an electric cattle prod might work as well and would not be as severe as a stun gun. I've seen prods small enough to be easily portable. I don't know if the electrode span is as tight as the VX, but one would think it would be adequate if it delivers a local jolt. I also don't know if the voltage is appropriate or how much it allegedly takes to denature venom. If it worked, that might be the only legitimate use for those devices.

As for regulatory safety concerns about Venom-X type products, I would imagine that it has the potential to be deadly if used on a person with a cardiac condition. I also imagine that a stout envenomation would be a bit rough on a cardiac patient. Nonetheless, I doubt if we'll see Dick Cheney using one for kicks.

[GENUINE_GM]

The voltage of a average ignition coil is about 45kV. It has not increased appreciably in the last 50 years. I have been "bit" by a ignition coil several times and why I didn't enjoy it there was nothing crippling about it. Just a sharp buzz.

I would think that a low amperage capacitor would have the same effect, but you would have to recharge it everytime (PITA).

[kchervey]

It works on mosquito bites too.

I had a real large one that was bugging me. My wife zapped in in the evening. The next morning it was gone.

I wish I could buy one for everyone.

[kchervey]

I have a friend that really wants one of these.

If anybody knows of any place/person selling them, please let me know.

[lplott]

I think after reading all this I would like to have one also. Where can you purchase them?

[Tony M]

If you've read the first post in this thread you can understand the cloud that surrounds this product. So if you talk with him please keep that in mind.
The guy's name is Cliff Mackey and his phone number is 918-341-6715. The price is $63.50. You send the money to PO Box 123 in Claremore, Oklahoma, 74018, and he sends you the device. Includes S+H.
I have no association with him and receive no compensation. I'm about to send for one myself.
Tony M