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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2003 10:35 am 
Does anyone know where to purchase Rose bushes that grow the long stems? Any good catalogs?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2003 8:19 am 
Well, the "long-stem" varieties are typically hybrid teas, which don't fair too well around here. I would recommend planting some shrub roses - many shrub roses have some of the characteristics of longer stemmed roses, but don't have as many disease problems, etc. 'Belinda's Dream' is a good shrub variety that produces nice cut flowers.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2003 2:35 pm 
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I love my Belinda's Dream.
It has beautiful, gorgeous, luscious, pink roses on longish stems: they look like a cross between a hybrid tea (the kind Miss America carries) and a cabbage rose (the kind you see on old-fashioned wallpaper).
They smell like heaven, and they last well in a vase.
And the bush produces wave after wave of them throughout the growing season.
My Belinda's Dream, in the DFW area, is about 4' tall & 3.5' wide.

Good luck!


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 2:00 pm 
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This post as well as other research I have completed after reading this post have sold me on Belindas Dream Rose. I intend to plant this in front of my white vinly fence. I figure the white background will really bring out the pink color. I have about 160 feet of fence and other areas around my home I wish to put this in. I am guessing this will eventually take 80 plants assuming a 2 foot spacing. I intend to purchase 12 plants this year. I then intend to use cuttings to create some root starters. I will also likely purchase another 12 next spring. I am new to any land scaping, gardening, etc. This is my first home. My questions are 1) Where might I find this rose reasonably priced locally near Fort Worth? I also work in the Duncanville area. I heard HG mention the antique rose plantation on his show. I checked out there websire. It is 80 miles away and I prefer to go and purchase hands on rather than order online. But will order online if not available locally. 2) Is this the best approach to filling that much space with this type of bush. (gradually, and with cuttings)? 3) I have come across some posts regarding cuttings, getting them to root. Where might I get more information on this process? Is it all within this site? Anyones input and guidance is greatly appreciated! I have a 1 acre lot and will be doing many other plantings and landscape settings over the next few years.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 5:58 pm 
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Marcus, I ordered several rose bushes this past fall from Antique Emporium and was very pleased with their delivery and the plants have performed beyond my expectations for the first few months. I followed their advice on planting time, etc. After researching I learned the "planning stage" is vital to a long-term approach for fulfilling your vision with roses. There are some very good books on Antique Roses and looking at pictures, studying the varieties and what they each have to offer is most helpful and motivating!

Today I learned of another source here near Houston, The Vintage Rosery and you might want to just take a look at their website. They are totally organic, which was most enlightening. Planning on visiting them this coming weekend.

Belinda's Dream is wonderful, but there are others that might be good climbers for what you describe. Some of the climbers are beautiful and fragrance was of great importance to me. Happy rose gardening! - Susan

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 6:03 pm 
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www.weareroses.com

www.vintagerosery.com

If you will take a look at Vintage Rosery's website (suggestions for cut flowers)--you will see a great picture of a bed of Belinda's Dream along a front porch with two year old rose bushes and treated with only alfalfa pellets. Great picture for getting ideas.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 11:44 pm 
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I wanted to thank everyone that answered my questions that I have posted in this thread. It seems I may have hijacked someones old topics. I found all of this information useful, including the websites referred to. I have also located a DFW area nursery, Redenta's has them for $18.95 in a two gallon pot. The Antique Rose Plantation a little farther away has them for $15.95 and an out of state mail order the Uncommon Rose has them for $11.95. Obviously, shipping charges effect some of the final prices. I believe I am going to take a stroll over to Redentas to see their selection. I may even get a lil road trip going to the antique rose plantation if I am not happy with the selection at Redentas. But that is a 160 mile round trip for me. I would have to be pretty disappointed at Redenta's for that trip. I have heard many good things about Redenta's, so I doubt I will be disappointed. I have also found a good web site for Propogating Roses from Cuttings. I hope this information on that web site might help others who are also looking to propogate roses from cuttings. I found this as well as the references in this thread quite useful. I am posting the results and answers I found while searching for an answer to my original questions. I am hopeful others who post questions on this forum, and then find answers via other means will do the same and post their findings with an update on their questions. I am new to this forum, but not new to forums in general. I searched extensively prior to asking questions and found a lot of good questions unanswered. I hope others will also answer their own questions if they find solutions outside of this forum. It ultimately will help all users of this AWESOME FORUM! Thanks to everyone for making this a great tool on my quest to starting my gardening adventures.


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Marcus, forgot to mention that the Antique Rose Emporium in Brenham www.weareroses.com has an outstanding mail order catalog. When I ordered from them last fall they had a special that included the book "Roses in the Southern Garden" by Michael Shoup and it was very helpful. Also, I wanted to cover a structure with climbing roses and was overwhelmed with selections and called and they were very ready to help with suggestions. The rose they suggested (Cramoisi Superieur) has proven to be a great choice and I would have never selected it on my own research. - Susan

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:D Back again. I never really put much thought into propogation as I haven't gotten to that stage, but you made me think more about it!

I found this website that has some valuable information on propogation as well as other insights. Thought it might be of interest to others.

http://www.texas-rose-rustlers.com/

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I noticed that Calloways has their Earthkind roses on sale this weekend, and they mention Belinda's Dream as one of them -- $12.98 for a two-gallon size. Marcus, if there's a Calloways close to you, you might want to check it out!


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 Post subject: Thank You Kathiec
PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 7:39 pm 
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Thank You for posting the deal from calloways. There is one on Hulen on the way to our bank. We stopped by today and we picked up 6 of them. We came home and dug in. I ammended the soil with some organic rose soil, some lava sand, and topped it off with some cedar mulch. We also used some Alfalfa pellets to the top of the soil prior to mulch. I spaced them apart about 30" as these roses can grow to quite a large size. The ones I put in this year fill my front flower bed that the builder left us quite nicely. We might add two more because we left a 4 foot gap nearest the drive way we are still contemplating putting in another focal piece. Possibly a Bench as my other half suggested. They are all quite small, but I am hopeful they will do well. It is quite windy today. THey are blowing around. Do these need to be staked? This is my first ever Rose Bush. Heck its my first ever flower bed. I am hopeful I will be able to do some propogation from cuttings in the fall. It seems that I would be able to take 3-10 cuttings from each bush depending on size. I really want to put these in other areas as well. I will keep you posted. I will post some pictures soon. Thanks for everyones posts. They were all very informative.

Susan-Thanks for that propogation site. Very useful. I will be learning. Wish there was a propogation forum here!

Marcus


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