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 Post subject: Protection from coyotes
PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 9:27 pm 
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I recently purchased 4 acres in Copper Canyon and am in the planning stages for a house, landscaping including a pond as well as a limited amount of livestock.

In consideration of keeping water fowl and perhaps a couple of goats I have been warned about the danger of coyotes poaching on my property. My question is can I effectively keep coyotes off my property? Will they jump a fence and if so how high can they jump? What other humane methods might I employ to prevent these predators from doing what comes natural?

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 Post subject: coyote protection
PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 7:56 am 
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What a great plan! Sounds beautiful already. I have heard many people w/donkeys say they're the best protectors you can have & are gentle to the owners, easy to keep, etc. Best to have 1 of each-a jack & jenny. There's a 'thread' probably under the 'livestock' forum that talked about donkeys quite some time ago, you could find it by clicking on that forum.
Good luck!
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 7:59 am 
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Patty,

Thanks, we are very excited about our future home.

Donkeys, how wonderful! Now that you mention it I have seen a donkey or two on neighboring property. I'll have to find that discussion and learn what I can.

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Along with Donkeys, consider Mules. I've seen them used against wild dogs & coyotes. They are great looking animals although they might eat more than Donkeys.

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llamas will also keep coyotes away and will sometimes kill them. You would need two llamas as they are herd animals.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 6:34 am 
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We have friends on 15 ac w/llamas & they're such neat animals. I feel sorry for them in the heat, however. they 'know' us but approach us like they'd run us off when we first arrive. When we bring our dog, they act like they have to check her out & approve.
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Also consider a livestock guardian dog such as a Great Pyrenees or Anatolian Shepard. We have a cross between the two and she has kept us predator free (coyotes, bobcats, skunks, raccoons, stray dogs, even chicken hawks) for two years. We hear coyotes weekly and our neighbor looses a chicken to some varmit monthly.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 8:02 am 
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Tony is correct on the quardian dogs but these
are not pets and should never be treated as
pets and nvere brought to the house. They
are working dogs - pet them on the heads
feed them and send them back to the fields
with their charges. They will protect from the
ground as well as from the air.
Donkeys are great but you do not need two.
If you have one donkey it will protect goats,
sheep from the ground but not from the air.
If yo have two they will buddie up and are
almost worthless and have *** on a daily
basis if they are not fixed. males are ok
but the females are the meanest when
protecting.
Llamas are ok but they only protect by
intimidation. They charge at the coyotes.
I don't know what they would do if a pack
of coyotes showed up.
The cheapest method is high tensile, high
voltage electric fence. This quality electric
fence is cheap, easy to maintain, and very
effective if you put lower strands close to
the ground. If there is enough and close
together you can even keep rabbits out
or in - depending on what you want. You
do not use a cheap charger and expect it
to work. The best and oldest name in chargers
is Gallagher (sp maybe off)
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I agree with Robert. I run goats behind a hi tensile 5 strand Gallagher electric fence. The bottom strand is about 4 inches from the groud, the next about 5 inches above the bottom, the next 6 inches, the 10 inches on the next two. The top, middle, and bottom wires are hot and the other two are grounded. Animals try to go through the fence and because of the small spacing the contact both the hot and ground wire. My goats are in the country in heavy brush and this system is excellent.


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