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PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 12:38 pm 
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I wonder if Mr. Garrett is reconsidering his stance on boric acid now that both boric acid and borax are being classified on the Substance of Very High Concern (SVHC) list by the new European Chemical regulations under REACH.
See the classifications below:
Boric Acid
CAS 10043-35-3
CAS 11113-50-1
component of detergents, cleaners, adhesives, toys, industrial fluids, brake fluids, glass, ceramics, flame retardants, paints, disinfectants, cosmetics, food additives, fertilizers, and insecticides
Tetraboron disodium heptaoxide, hydrate
CAS 12267-73-1

Below is from Wikipedia summarizing an EPA study attached.
A reassessment of boric acid/borax by the United States Environmental Protection Agency Office of Pesticide Programs found potential developmental toxicity especially effects on the testes).[16] Boric acid solutions used as an eye wash or on abraded skin are known to be particularly toxic to infants, especially after repeated use, because of the slow elimination rate.[17]


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:30 pm 
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I have found a product that contains boric acid used in direct contact with male infant testes.
The product is Boudreaux's Butt Paste manufactured by Blairex Laboratories:
www.buttpaste.com

I recommend you immediately stop using this product until they reformulate the product.
The boric acid is listed as one of the "Inactive Ingredients".


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 12:13 pm 
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Additional reference information on toxicity of boric acid:

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency ... 002485.htm
http://devinefarm.net/rp/rpboric.htm
http://www.beyondpesticides.org/infoser ... _borax.htm
http://www.boric-acid.co.uk/boric-acid-hazards


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 11:46 am 
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I have found additional products containing boric acid based chemicals, some you are probably using this week:

Cheer Colorguard Regular, Cheer Free & Gentle, Cheer Fresh Linen, Cheer Dark, Cheer Complete, and Cheer High Efficiency)
According to their MSDS, these contain sodium borate at 1-5%.

Tide Regular/Orig Scent, Tide Mountain Spring, Tide Free, Tide High Efficiency, Tide High Efficiency Free, Tide Simple Pleasures Vanilla & Lavender, Tide Simple Pleasures Water Lily & Jasmine, Tide Simple Pleasures Rose & Violet, Tide Simple Pleasures Magnolia & Orange Blossom, Tide Clean Breeze, Tide High Efficiency Clean Breeze, Tide ‘Deep Clean’, Tide Fresh Scent, Tide Tropical Clean, Tide w/Bleach Alternative Reg, Tide w/Bleach Alternative Mountain Spring, Tide w/Bleach Alternative Clean Breeze, Tide w/Bleach Alternative High Efficiency, Tide ColdWater Fresh Scent, Tide ColdWater Glacier, Tide ColdWater Mountain Spring, Tide with a Touch of Downy April Fresh, Tide with a Touch of Downy Clean Breeze, Tide with a Touch of Downy Soft Ocean Mist, Tide with Febreze Freshness Spring & Renewal, Tide with Febreze Freshness Meadows & Rain, Tide with Febreze Freshness Citrus & Light, Tide Pure Essentials with Citrus Extracts Lemon Verbena Scent, and Tide Pure Essentials with Baking Soda White Lilac Scent.
According to their MSDS, these contain sodium borate at 1-5%.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:32 am 
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I have found more laundry detergent that contains sodium borate now classified as a hazardous chemical (reproductive toxin) by REACH:

Gain Orig. Scent, Gain Gentle Breeze, Gain Island Fresh, Gain Whitewater Fresh, Gain Fresh Awakenings, Gain with Bleach Alternative, Gain Joyful Expressions Apple Mango Tango, Gain Joyful Expressions Gardenia Delight, Gain Joyful Expressions Mandarin Lime Fusion, Gain Joyful Expressions Honeysuckle Guava Groove, Gain High Efficiency Orig. Scent, Gain High Efficiency Island Fresh, Gain Plus A Touch of Softness Simply Fresh, Gain Plus A Touch of Softness Cotton Fresh
Surf® Laundry Detergent Powder - Active Oxygen, Original
Scent (sodium perborate).


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:41 pm 
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I forgot to add the product even my great grandmother used- 20 Mule Team Borax manufactured by Dial Corporation!
The MSDS states it contain 60-100% Sodium Tetraborate Decahydrate.
If you use this, be sure to rinse clothes thoroughly, particularly children's clothing.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 8:32 pm 
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Howard Garrett's recommendation to kill ants in the house:

5. Liquid baits are highly attractive to ants and under most conditions provide good control. Mixing 9 tablespoons of sugar to 1 teaspoon of boric acid in enough water to dissolve. Place the liquid bait into spill proof containers out of the reach of children and pets. The stations will need to be placed along active ant trails. . It is important to remember that boric acid contains elemental boron and at high concentrations will sterilize the soil. This process is slow and will require continued monitoring and refilling of the bait stations.


[b]I would not recommend using boric acid in the home or garden.[/b]


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 12:47 pm 
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Howard posted the following:

Boric acid
Boric acid, a common ingredient in many household and hygienic products can, when overused or consumed, cause skin reactions, hair loss and serious illness,
Where Found
• Antiseptics and astringents
• Enamels and glazes
• Glass fiber manufacturing
• Medicated powders
• Skin lotions
• Some paints
• Some rodent and ant pesticides
• Photography chemicals
• Powders to kill roaches
Note: This list may not be all inclusive.
Symptoms
The main symptoms of boric acid poisoning are blue-green vomit, diarrhea, and a bright red rash on the skin. Other symptoms may include:
• Blisters
• Collapse
• Coma
• Convulsions
• Drowsiness
• Fever
• Lack of desire to do anything
• Low blood pressure
• Significantly decreased urine output (or none)
• Sloughing of skin
• Twitching of facial muscles, arms, hands, legs, and feet

http://www.ehow.com/about_5554647_dange ... -acid.html
http://www.beyondpesticides.org/infoser ... ates_borax
http://www.ehow.com/facts_5557771_boric ... onous.html
http://npic.orst.edu/factsheets/boricgen.pdf
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency ... 002485.htm
http://devinefarm.net/rp/rpboric.htm
http://www.beyondpesticides.org/infoser ... _borax.htm
http://www.boric-acid.co.uk/boric-acid-hazards


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:27 pm 
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Another few products to be aware of:

Eye Wash containing boric acid
Examples:
Bausch and Lomb Eye Wash
Product Ingredients
Active Ingredient: Purified Water (99.05%). Inactive Ingredients: Boric Acid, Sodium Borate and Sodium Chloride, Hydrochloric Acid and/or Sodium Hydroxide May be Used to Adjust pH. Preservative Added: Edetate Disodium (0.025%) and Sorbic Acid (0.1%).

Boric Acid Suppositories for Bacterial/Yeast Infections:

Yeast Arrest Boric Acid Suppositories by Vitanica
Ingredients:
Homeopathic Formula

Active Ingredients
•Borax 3x HPUS
•Hydrastis Canadensis 3x HPUS
•Berberis Aquifolium 3x HPUS
•Kreosotum 3x HPUS

Inactive Ingredients:
•Boric Acid
•Cocoa butter
•Lactobacillus acidophilus
•Neem oil
•Oregon grape root
•Tea Tree essential oil
•Triglycerides from vegetable oil
•Vitamin E


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:01 pm 
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Good news on Boudreaux's Butt Paste manufactured by Blairex Laboratories:
www.buttpaste.com

They have removed the boric acid from the formulation.
There may be old stock still for sale so be sure to check the ingredient list to ensure you have the new lot with no boric acid.
The boric acid was listed as one of the "Inactive Ingredients".


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:27 pm 
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Checked on any updates on the P&G Products- Tide, Cheer, and Gain.

http://www.pgproductsafety.com/products ... mit=Search

All the new Tide and Cheer products no longer contain borax, probably due to the new toxic classification in Europe. Only found it still present in the Gain products so you have a lot of borax free options now.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 11:45 am 
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Unfortunately, I found another famous "Natural Products" company using boric acid not only in their standard laundry detergents but also in their line of "Baby Laundry Liquid".
It is the Seventh Generation Company sold under the tradenames "Free and Clear" and "Natural". See site:
http://www.seventhgeneration.com/ingredients

See their statement below:
Seventh Generation is the nation’s leading brand of household and personal care products that help protect human health and the environment. Established in 1988, the Burlington, Vermont based company remains an independent, privately-held company distributing products to natural food stores, supermarkets, mass merchants, and online retailers across the United States and Canada.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 8:24 pm 
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I heard Howard recommend using borate products again today on his radio show. He recommended it for treatment of the interior of the house for fleas. Fleas are not like roaches which you can treat under counters and in hidden areas. Fleas would be in the carpet and furniture so to treat them you would have to apply the borate based products on areas small children and babies would be crawling and coming in contact with.
I surely would not use any borate based product in any area that would have possible dermal contact potential.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:29 pm 
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Here is the label required on boric acid sold in the European Union:


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:49 pm 
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Checked on any updates on the P&G Products- Gain.

http://www.pgproductsafety.com/products ... mit=Search

All the new Gain products no longer contain borax, probably due to the new toxic classification in Europe. So you have a lot of borax free options now.


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