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PostPosted: Sat Dec 25, 2004 6:14 pm 
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Below are two links to info. on essential oils. Keep in mind that I am not promoting this - just info. Thoughts and feedback are appreciated.

http://www.manchester.ac.uk/press/title%2c8376%2cen.htm

http://rense.com/general61/super.htm

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University of Manchester researchers found three of the oils, usually used in aromatherapy, destroyed MRSA and E.coli bacteria in two minutes.

Which three oils? What dilution rates? Rather a weak bit of reporting. :?
If I had any information, I would be pleased to increase my essential oil usage.

Tea Tree Oil immediately came to mind as it is marketed as a natural antiseptic, germicide, antibacterial, fungicide.

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Mr. Clean - Good point! I have been trying to find out what three oils they are referring to. I sent an E-Mail; no response yet. If you find out, let me know. As far as Tree Tea Oil, a local herbalist doesn't recommend it. She says it causes brain damage. I don't have any info. on this claim.

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KHWOZ wrote:
...As far as Tree Tea Oil, a local herbalist doesn't recommend it. She says it causes brain damage. I don't have any info. on this claim.


I am VERY interested in this claim. I have tea tree oil in shampoo, body wash, etc. MAYBE this may explain...well....me :lol:

I thought someone on this forum used it to treat a spider bite :?:

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I have used tea tree oil on fire ant bites. It worked great! Who said it causes brain damage? Is that if you drink 2 gallons of it? If you snort it? How?

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Nadine, others, I have read posts on other forums (mainly soap forums) that are causing me concern about Tea Tree Oil. A lot of herbalists are saying to not use this product. Supposedly it has killed cats that were treated with the oil for skin problems & it might cause brain damage in humans. I will post any info. I can find relating to this subject. As of now, I don't know if any of this info. is factual.

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KHWOZ wrote:
Nadine, others, I have read posts on other forums (mainly soap forums) that are causing me concern about Tea Tree Oil. A lot of herbalists are saying to not use this product. Supposedly it has killed cats that were treated with the oil for skin problems & it might cause brain damage in humans. I will post any info. I can find relating to this subject. As of now, I don't know if any of this info. is factual.


I'm definitely still interested in any follow up to this issue. I also use Tea Tree Oil and related products with some regularity.

KHWOZ, have the posters on these forums been asked to provide any sources which would confirm their assertions?

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Ck the link below; best I can do for now. The person providing the info. (lab rat) is a chemist & seems to be very knowledgeable.

http://www.soapdishforum.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=59148

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KHWOZ wrote:
Nadine, others, I have read posts on other forums (mainly soap forums) that are causing me concern about Tea Tree Oil. A lot of herbalists are saying to not use this product. Supposedly it has killed cats that were treated with the oil for skin problems & it might cause brain damage in humans. I will post any info. I can find relating to this subject. As of now, I don't know if any of this info. is factual.


Please don't use any essential oils on any cats. And don't use them on animals unless you know what you are doing.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 7:39 am 
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Tea tree oil is an accepted remedy for earaches (use 3 drops to every 10 drops of carrier oil--it worked for me and my little ear infection), but --as with any essential oil-- it must be diluted into a carrier medium. Any essential oil could be harmful if used full strength..heck, even water can kill you if you get too much!
As for cats, since they are an alien life form to begin with, our earthly remedies often fall short.


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University of Manchester researchers found three of the oils, usually used in aromatherapy, destroyed MRSA and E.coli bacteria in two minutes.
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… Which three oils? What dilution rates?...

KHWOZ wrote:
…I have been trying to find out what three oils they are referring to. I sent an E-Mail; no response yet...

KHWOZ, did you ever receive a response to your e-mail?

Has there been any further documented evidence regarding a link between tea tree oil and brain damage in humans?

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No, sorry to say that I received no response and haven't heard any more regarding Tea Tree oil. My best advice regarding essential/plant oils would be moderation, dilution if needed & common (uncommon?) sense.

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KHWOZ wrote:
No, sorry to say that I received no response....

That's too bad. I'm sure if more information were provided by the group then more folks might be inclined to employ those tools.
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... and haven't heard any more regarding Tea Tree oil. My best advice regarding essential/plant oils would be moderation, dilution if needed & common (uncommon?) sense.

I agree with the moderation, dilution, common sense etc. I just have a neat little cache of various oils and want to integrate more of them into my routines.

:idea: Does anyone know what kind of shelf life the oils have? Do they go rancid or just lose their potency? This may require a separate and dedicated thread.

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KHWOZ wrote:
... and haven't heard any more regarding Tea Tree oil. My best advice regarding essential/plant oils would be moderation, dilution if needed & common (uncommon?) sense.


If you have the ability to keep the material cold until you're ready to use it, that "should" help keep it stable. Cooling some types of materials can cause them to cloud, and some material might not return to the original clarity after warming. I might suggest testing a small amount in the refrigerator, some in an ice bath, and some in the freezer to see how it reacts. The idea would be, if cooling doesn't muck it up, to divide the material into measures small enough so that you would use each reasonably fast in normal usage. If it will tolerate the freezer's temperature, possibly place all but the currently used portion in the freezer and place the currently used portion in the refrigerator. Short of adding preservatives, cooling and storing in the dark probably are the main practical ways for the home user to retard oxidation, provided the material is not already oxidized when you begin. The home scientist might even try storage in a vacuum or in a nearly inert gas, such as nitrogen. I imagine the Tea Tree Oil matter will attract some attention and more clarity with time.

:idea: Does anyone know what kind of shelf life the oils have? Do they go rancid or just lose their potency?[/quote]

For the material in question, I would guess that rancidity (oxidation) probably is the main effect and causes a loss in potency, perhaps along with physical changes such as changes in color, odor, and viscosity. Crosslinking, other reactions among components, and enzymatic degradation, including microbial action, are other common possibilities, depending on the material. Stability data for a pure substance often is available, but finding stability data for complex compounds isn't so easy unless a compound is uniform from batch to batch. Absent batch uniformity, data for one batch might not apply to another batch. It is this sort of issue that usually drives formulators to use preservatives, often artificially produced ones. Perhaps even Vitamin E oil or a similar antioxidant would help retard oxidation of the material in question. Some antioxidants are available to the tolerant and willing home user that are taboo for commercial formulators due to concerns over shelf life/color/texture. For example, Vitamin C seldom is used in substantial proportions in cosmetics because consumers apparently expect cosmetic creams to be and to remain white. Vitamin C browns too quickly for substantial use in products that might have to remain on the shelf for 6-20 weeks before being used completely, but an end user might not mind a preserve-as-you-go approach with Vitamin C or garden-derived material.

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There's a great book called "Herbal Antibiotics : Natural Alternatives for Treating Drug-Resistant Bacteria" (Storey Medicinal Herb Guide)
by Stephen Harrod Buhner. I highly recommend it. In it they reference the effectiveness of rosewood, thyme and oregano essential oils for killing antibiotic resistance pneumonia bacteria. In that case, the mode of delivery is a difuser which emits the essential oils into the air which you then breath.

Essential oils are very potent, so very small quantities can be toxic. Be careful with anything taken internally.


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